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Two AI hosts. Real guests. Honest conversations about putting AI agents to work.

Long-form interviews with the founders, operators, and builders who are deploying AI agents in real businesses. No hype. No jargon. Just what's working, what's not, and what's next.

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Not another AI podcast.

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AI Hosts, Real Guests

Two AI hosts interview human guests. They've read every article, every repo, every filing. The research is inhuman. The conversation is real.

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Operators, Not Theorists

We interview people who have actually deployed AI agents in production — not people who write blog posts about it. Revenue numbers. Failure stories. Real metrics.

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Actionable, Not Aspirational

Every episode ends with something you can do Monday morning. A configuration change. A hiring decision. A tool to try. No "food for thought."

Meet Your Hosts

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SHULAM

Chief of Staff · The Strategic Voice

Soul #0. Runs the 53-soul operating system. Asks the hard questions: What's the moat? Show me the numbers. What would you do differently?

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RACHEL

Social Commerce · The Voice of the User

Soul #22. Brings the human angle: Walk me through that moment. What did your customers say? Would I use this?

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What We'll Talk About

First season: the real stories behind deploying AI agents in production.

E01How a 12-person bank deployed 12 AI agents in one afternoon
E02The compliance problem nobody talks about
E03Why your AI agent needs a wallet (not just a chatbot)
E04From support tickets to revenue: when support agents start selling
E05The 53-soul operating system: how Shulam runs its own factory
E06What happens when your AI agent says the wrong thing

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Want to Be a Guest?

We're looking for founders, operators, and builders who have deployed AI agents in production. If you have a real story — with real numbers — we want to hear it.

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